A place for residents of Marin County, CA and others to express their views regarding the real estate bubble and in particular the Marin real estate market
Friday, February 20, 2009
DataQuick, January, 2005 to Present
As one commentor over at CalculatedRisk said, "it is nice to see marin get bitchslapped".
Source
Note: I forgot to mention that these data points are year-over-year percent (de)appreciation.
Update February 22, 2009: Due to the incredulity of one commentor regarding the previous chart, I made the following chart using the same DataQuick source:
For the Marin data series in the above chart, peak (June, 2007) to trough (January, 2009) is a -45.4% decline. For the Bay Area series, it's a -54.9% decline.
Sunday, February 01, 2009
Foreclosure Is Part of the Solution, Not the Problem
As the Obama Administration rushes to prove that it is just as clueless and fiscally irresponsible as the previous administration vis the "credit crisis", I found this Wall Street Journal article refreshing. Yes, foreclosure is a perfectly acceptable choice for people who find their precious house price is less than their mortgage -- that is precisely why the house is held as collateral. There is absolutely nothing wrong with "walking away", "jingle mail", or "mailing in the keys".
The cure for the current economic "illness" is not greater and greater amounts of what got the economy sick in the first place. It's not effectively 0% interest rates. It is not massively punishing savers. It's not more lax lending. It is not more artificial asset price inflation. It's not more housing tax incentives. It is not forcing tax payers to bail out failed businesses that deserve to be weeded out of the business "gene pool". It's not the Fed buying bad assets at ridiculously inflated prices or setting up bogus banks to hold the bad assets. And it most certainly is not preventing or delaying foreclosures.
How long will it be before the myopic, short-sighted, entrenched group-think in Washington is finally forced to admit or shamed into admitting this simple truth? How impoverished must our country become, how much crushing debt must we pile on to the younger generations before they understand this?
The cure for the current economic mess is what's been needed for the last decade or more: to allow the free-market to remove the excesses in the economy and to price assets based on what people earn for themselves. Foreclosure is the free-market in action doing exactly what it should be doing and what needs to be done.
Government and government-sponsored market interventions and manipulations are the exact opposite of what the markets need.
The cure for the current economic "illness" is not greater and greater amounts of what got the economy sick in the first place. It's not effectively 0% interest rates. It is not massively punishing savers. It's not more lax lending. It is not more artificial asset price inflation. It's not more housing tax incentives. It is not forcing tax payers to bail out failed businesses that deserve to be weeded out of the business "gene pool". It's not the Fed buying bad assets at ridiculously inflated prices or setting up bogus banks to hold the bad assets. And it most certainly is not preventing or delaying foreclosures.
How long will it be before the myopic, short-sighted, entrenched group-think in Washington is finally forced to admit or shamed into admitting this simple truth? How impoverished must our country become, how much crushing debt must we pile on to the younger generations before they understand this?
The cure for the current economic mess is what's been needed for the last decade or more: to allow the free-market to remove the excesses in the economy and to price assets based on what people earn for themselves. Foreclosure is the free-market in action doing exactly what it should be doing and what needs to be done.
Government and government-sponsored market interventions and manipulations are the exact opposite of what the markets need.
Preventing foreclosures has become a top priority of politicians, economists and regulators. In fact, allowing foreclosures to happen has merit as a free-market solution to the crisis.
If the intent is to help homeowners, then foreclosure is undoubtedly the best solution. Household balance sheets have been destroyed by taking on too much debt via the purchase of inflated assets. With so little savings, a household with negative equity almost implies negative net worth. Walking away from the mortgage immediately repairs the balance sheet.
Credit may be damaged, but homeowners can rebuild it. And by renting something they can afford, instead of the McMansion they cannot, homeowners are most likely to have some money left over each month that they can save toward a down payment on a house they can eventually afford.
If the intent is to help the credit markets, then foreclosure is undoubtedly the best solution. The securitization model has proven to be flawed...
...The intent of [loan] modification programs to date is to create a generation of mortgage slaves. Fortunately, mortgage slaves can free themselves via foreclosure, and the masses are choosing to do so.
Friday, January 09, 2009
Just In Case You Were Wondering
I was out in west Marin the other day and drove past the boat-garage-pretending-to-be-a-desirable-Marin-abode. It's still for sale. I last blogged it in a post entitled Waiting for Mr. Market to Catch Up to Their Marin Wishing Prices. Apparently, the sellers are still waiting for a Mr. Right buyer to come along "with a bucket of money and a box of stupid".
I first blogged this POS back in November, 2005. So that makes its real DOM something in the neighborhood of 1130 days (give or take). They are currently asking the bubblicious, staggering price of $525K for this 1br, 1ba, 543 ft^2 boat garage (but to put things in to their proper context, $795K was the highest, delusional listing price I've seen for this POS). Three cheers for Marin seller obstinacy, wishful thinking, and denial!

I first blogged this POS back in November, 2005. So that makes its real DOM something in the neighborhood of 1130 days (give or take). They are currently asking the bubblicious, staggering price of $525K for this 1br, 1ba, 543 ft^2 boat garage (but to put things in to their proper context, $795K was the highest, delusional listing price I've seen for this POS). Three cheers for Marin seller obstinacy, wishful thinking, and denial!
Wednesday, December 31, 2008
Price Decline from Peak
I found the following graphic over on Mish's blog. Please check it out for the whole story.
A -44.55% decline from the peak in single family residence prices in the San Francisco Bay area in just 18 months! Anathema!
Friday, December 19, 2008
November YOY Results for "Immune" Marin
More year-over-year declines for Marin. Rather surprising considering we were supposed to have "dodged the subprime bullet". At least that's what the Marin IJ once quoted our esteemed local real estate industry as saying.From the Marin IJ:
Another month of plummeting home sales in Marin included a price drop of nearly 30 percent from November 2007, as discounted foreclosure sales continued to drive the Bay Area market. The median price of a single-family home in Marin last month was $790,000, down from $975,000 last year, MDA DataQuick reported Thursday. In October, the median single-family home price in Marin was $850,000. Realtor Peter Harris in Novato said bank-owned properties and short sales have made up about 85 percent of his business over the past year. ‘Prices are half of what they were,’ Harris said. ‘Condos are selling in the low $100,000s. We haven’t seen this for a long time.’From DataQuick:
Friday, November 28, 2008
This Thanksgiving I Give Thanks to All of You Who Made this All Possible
This post over at the Mess That Greenspan Made blog is down right scary -- by some estimates the potential cost of the bailouts will reach $8.5 trillion. Can we survive that? No way that is going to get paid back. Or this at Calculated Risk showing that the current bear market is the worst ever (on a percentage basis).
It seems to me that the genesis of this "crisis" was in the 1980s, the rise of yuppiedom, and has gotten progressively worse by an ever growing populous that more and more chose to finance their lifestyle with debt vs. wealth earned until it reached the point where people willingly paid ludicrous prices for houses, a college education, etc. For kids who came of age during this 28-year span, living on debt has been the norm. I feel the most sorry for them, the unwinding will be the hardest on them as they don't know any better. But for the rest of us boomers who have witnessed, and in far too many cases gleefully participated in, the entire life-cycle of this debt-investment craze, I have little sympathy. Blame Wall St., bankers, financiers, etc. all you want but in the final analysis no one held a gun to your head, no one made you agree to pay a stupid price for your house.
Really, is cheaper housing such a bad thing? Maybe it is for you who listened to the self-interested persuasion of a realtor/agent, you who bought in to the ludicrous pricing and was hoping to retire on the sale of a house. But think past yourself (if you're able). Think about your kids and your grandkids. Do we really want a future where so few can afford something as simple and as basic as a house? Do we really want to live in a nation so impoverished by desperate attempts to prop up prices that we know in our heart of hearts are insane, even still? Besides, we have truly important things to worry about, like a world wracked by global warming, the solutions to which will require personal sacrifice on a scale we of the post-war generations can hardly imagine, and an ability to think beyond our own selfish wants and desires.
But at the very least let's not ever forget the people who got it right, early, when action could have made a difference:
I hope you all enjoyed your Thanksgiving.
It seems to me that the genesis of this "crisis" was in the 1980s, the rise of yuppiedom, and has gotten progressively worse by an ever growing populous that more and more chose to finance their lifestyle with debt vs. wealth earned until it reached the point where people willingly paid ludicrous prices for houses, a college education, etc. For kids who came of age during this 28-year span, living on debt has been the norm. I feel the most sorry for them, the unwinding will be the hardest on them as they don't know any better. But for the rest of us boomers who have witnessed, and in far too many cases gleefully participated in, the entire life-cycle of this debt-investment craze, I have little sympathy. Blame Wall St., bankers, financiers, etc. all you want but in the final analysis no one held a gun to your head, no one made you agree to pay a stupid price for your house.
Really, is cheaper housing such a bad thing? Maybe it is for you who listened to the self-interested persuasion of a realtor/agent, you who bought in to the ludicrous pricing and was hoping to retire on the sale of a house. But think past yourself (if you're able). Think about your kids and your grandkids. Do we really want a future where so few can afford something as simple and as basic as a house? Do we really want to live in a nation so impoverished by desperate attempts to prop up prices that we know in our heart of hearts are insane, even still? Besides, we have truly important things to worry about, like a world wracked by global warming, the solutions to which will require personal sacrifice on a scale we of the post-war generations can hardly imagine, and an ability to think beyond our own selfish wants and desires.
But at the very least let's not ever forget the people who got it right, early, when action could have made a difference:
I hope you all enjoyed your Thanksgiving.
Thursday, November 20, 2008
It's Official
I'm sure you all remember that classic April 10, 2007 Leslie Appleton-Young quote in the Marin IJ that went "When is the 30 percent decline in Marin County's [real estate] market going to happen? Not in my lifetime"? I promised you then in a post that I would be "keeping this link for future use so we can rub it in her face when the time comes". Well, that time has come:Leslie Appleton-Young: Consider your face officially rubbed in it.
From DataQuick:
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