Wednesday, September 13, 2006

More Marin RE Agent Bloggers

Blogging by real estate agents and brokers seems to be the new thing for some of them. I like the theme this Marin agent chose for her blog... reminds me of something...

I left a comment on her top (9/12/06) post with a link to this blog...let's see how long it lasts. I posted it today at 2:55 PM.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am so excited about her blog, I just want to mindlessly spend money.

David said...

Hopefully longer the you can say 'housing bubble.'

Anonymous said...

Did you know that Blogger uses templates? I doubt very much that this was done with any malice, it is very likely she didn't even see your site. If you take a moment to scroll through the millions of blogs on blogger I'm sure you'll find thousands of other sites that are using the same template. I think this is just a simple coincidence.

Anonymous said...

I think she's another in the army of leaches.
No doubt an innocent leach.
She only wants to suck you for 3% or so.
She wants it to go up and up.
I'm sure she's a very nice person.
I'm sure the template choice was an innocent one.

The problem is, other innocents are being hurt and she doesn't see or care about that.

Anonymous said...

I mean really, isn't this taking things a bit far? Judgements are being made on a person based simply on the choice of a template. Pointing fingers and making statements about a person's character simple because they used a template like yours? I say again -- it is a template! provided by Blogger -- not designed by you. It says right on the front page of Blogger... sign up, name your blog, pick a template.I doubt you were the first person to pick this theme, nor will you be the last. This is one of the reason blogging so popular, especially for beginners. You don't have to know how to design a site can just pick a template - like everyone else! If you feel this strongly about this, learn some basic HTML and customize your blog.

Anonymous said...

Judgements are being made on a person based simply on the choice of a template. Pointing fingers and making statements about a person's character simple because they used a template like yours?

Dude, what are you talking about? He wrote:
"I like the theme...her blog...reminds me of something"

I've noticed a quite a bit of righteous indignation over several key posts here, and each time a motive was assigned to this blogger that's just not evident from their writing. Something to think about...

Marinite said...

Did you know that Blogger uses templates?

Yes.

I doubt very much that this was done with any malice,

Me too.

Anonymous said...

righteous indignation over several key posts here

It's called attacking the messanger and not the message with a little bit of bait and switch thrown in. The message is undeniable at this point. Some people can't accept that as their cognitive dissonance, denial, and self-justification can take them only so far. When they come to that point and can no longer asail the message, the messanger becomes the target. If the messanger cannot be attacked based on clear and obvious intentions of statements that he/she made, then motivations etc are fabricated from what ever thin excuse can be derived no matter how weak it is.

Anonymous said...

Dude, what are you talking about? He wrote:
"I like the theme...her blog...reminds me of something"


I read that as being just slightly sarcastic. I don't believe it was meant as a compliment especially when the author follows that up by saying ".let's see how long it lasts". I think the " judgements are being made" was in reply to being referred to as a "leach".

Anonymous said...

people are morons for buying in Marin anyway. Ugly little richy-rich enclave pasted onto the side of a fault line. People never learn do they.

Anonymous said...

"people are morons for buying in Marin anyway. Ugly little richy-rich enclave pasted onto the side of a fault line. People never learn do they.

Bravo!! Well Said!!
Can I move to whatever rock you crawled out from under?? NOT!!!

Marinite said...

I like the theme this Marin agent chose for her blog... reminds me of something...

In other words, "I like the theme this Marin agent chose for her blog". Why? Because it "reminds me of something...". Must I really point out what?

If you want to attack me... bring it on. But at least have a legitimate gripe with me rather than making stuff up.

I left a comment on her top (9/12/06) post with a link to this blog...let's see how long it lasts. I posted it today at 2:55 PM.

I am so accustomed to being flamed and demonized for daring to question Marin and its real estate market and for actually holding certain things higher than profit and greed, and given the comments about me and my blog on the Carreiro blog (not to mention the IJ and a few others who shall remain un-named), I automatically made a cynical assumption about Melissa's blog (the blog that this post points to) which is what the quoted material above betrays. So sue me.

But going over to Melissa's blog and discussing my blog and me there is not appropriate IMO. If you have issues with me, then keep it here.

And yes, I check my blog's comments multiple times every day...even when on vacation if possible. However, I don't always choose to participate in the comment thread because I have found that the thread is often more informative if I stay out.

marine_explorer said...

But going over to Melissa's blog and discussing my blog and me there is not appropriate IMO.

Right, but either way, that realtor got more than she bargained for!

Anonymous said...

Responses to her blog questioning those statements have gone unanswered.

The responses and comments that clemente619 is referring to on Melissa's blog were all made within just over one day. One day!

clemente610 made several comments all in that one day. Some comments, made within a few hours of each other, taunted Melissa because she hadn't replied yet.

I'm not naive. I understand the blogging community expects a quick response but I also would like to believe that as a community they understand not everyone can post hourly or daily.

My assertion is this: these aren’t true blogs. They’re marketing tools masquerading as blogs.

A true blog? A blog isn't "true" simply because a response wasn't made quick enough for you?

I'm sure you are right that there area some blogs out there being used more for marketing purposes (of course this isn't just Realtors) but I think you might have been a bit quick to make a judgement in this case.

It's just my opinion but I didn't get a "marketing tool" feeling from Melissa's blog. It felt "true" to me.

Anonymous said...

I left a comment on her top (9/12/06) post with a link to this blog...let's see how long it lasts.

You say yourself that you are used to being flamed so you must have known that pointing to another blog and saying "reminds me of something" and then wondering "how long it lasts" had a feeling of *wink-wink* *nudge-nudge". that could result in flaming Melissa's blog.

I did see that you said on Melissa's blog you were "sorry to have inadvertantly brought this on to your blog."
What better way to wrap this all up.

Anonymous said...

anon -

Stop all this self-rightous BS. This holier than thou, 'if I can't attack Marinite based on the facts then I'll put words in his/her mouth, imagine hidden motivations and agendas, and attack him/her on issues of social grace and tact instead' is absurd.

You are like a little child who if he can't win an argument, acts out and looks for any little point in what someone says and jumps on them for it no matter how trivial it is.

Anonymous said...

I stand by my leach comment.
I mean that in a kind and loving way.
Leaches are being used in legit medicine to suck off toxins.
They are a natural part of the food chain.

I retract my reference to other innocents being hurt by her.
I don't know her or her business.
I was lamenting my personal experience with a friend who got some really bad advice and went with it.
This advice came from some very highly respected Marin RE and mortgage folks.

Anonymous said...

"that could result in flaming Melissa's blog."

So according to your ethical framework it seems that marinite should not point out realtor blogs because doing so makes him/her responsible for how readers of this blog behave on those other realtor blogs?

why should marinite take responsibility for how other people choose to behave?

Anonymous said...

But in my view, the owner of a blog should respond to direct and legitimate questions.
Do you disagree.


Not at all. I was simply saying give her a reasonable amount of time.

Who has the ability to turn on anonymous posting on a blog? The blog owner, of course.

I can see how you might think that. But I can assure you that this is not the case. Melissa has already addressed these comments on her blog.

So according to your ethical framework it seems that marinite should not point out realtor blogs because doing so makes him/her responsible for how readers of this blog behave on those other realtor blogs?

lbc,
I am sorry, my intention was not to imply she was responsible for other people. I only meant to say that in this environment pointing a finger will probably result in flaming.

Maybe we can learn from this and think before we post.

Have a good day everyone.

Anonymous said...

"When I first posted there, anonymous comments were not allowed. Now they are."

clemente619 -

Are you saying that you think Melissa is postiung to this and her own blog as anonymous or some other, non-identifying handle? That would explain the childish/immature things one anon is doing here.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, not to beat this to death, but look at this from anonymous:

"Some comments, made within a few hours of each other"

If you go to the realtor's blog, the entries are just dated -- no time stamps.

Furthermore (I know, what is this, forensic investigation?) look at this from anonymous:

"I don't claim to speak for Melissa"

But then later we have:

"But I can assure you that this is not the case. Melissa has already addressed these comments on her blog."

So, she doesn't speak for Melissa but then she does.

Funny. That's all it is.

Athena said...

good grief... you know, it would seem that if you enter a profession and create a blog site one would at least grasp the idea of intelligent dialogue. Not just grasp it, but be prepared for it, and have stats and data to help boost the old credibility factor and give the buyer a reason to feel good about using their services.

Cracks me up that so many realtors en masse seem so averse to having discussions that involve sound logic and a bit of math. I hate to make this generalization, because I know that as with any profession there are going to be hacks... but geez louise... some of these people make the stereotype of realtwhores look good.

marine_explorer said...

so many realtors en masse seem so averse to having discussions that involve sound logic and a bit of math

Right, they're more than happy to sound convincing if it helps a sale, but once questioned on their assumptions, they take offense at critiquing their "pollyanna philosophy". Seriously, this strikes me as really flaky.

Realtors need to realize this isn't some pollyannish mental game, but homebuyers are making critical financial decisions. They deserve good information, or in its absence, cautionary advice.

Anonymous said...

First I want to say that I'm sorry to Marinite - I had no idea this would turn into the monster it has.

I didn't claim to speak for Melissa and I still don't claim to speak for Melissa. I set up her blog and manage the set up - which explains the anonymous comments.

The way that my comments were received and the harsh replys to some very simple statements left me wondering if the fact I knew Melissa would have become more of a focal point and not my comments.

My ONLY reason for joining this discussion was to point out that many blogs look similar and the similarity wasn't done with any malice.

At the point when the comments started to refer "hurting the innocent", "RealTWhores" and how she wasn't responding "now" I felt it was becoming more judgmental than a form of discussion.

Marinite said...

Please, stop. This has gone to the point of utter absurdity. Unfortunately, Blogger does not allow me to turn off commenting on just one post. If I could, I would have by now. My only alternative is to delete the whole post but I won't do that (yet).

So just stop.

Let this be the last comment in this post.